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From: Ceb (MADRASMAN) [#1]
20 Dec 2009
To: ALL

Victory for Anything-but-X-Factor.

From: TheCastrator [#2]
20 Dec 2009
To: Ceb (MADRASMAN) [#1] 20 Dec 2009

I like this turn of events. Also, as everyone who would have bought the X Factor single has bought it already, it's going to drop to number nine for next week. HAHAhaha aha.

From: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#3]
20 Dec 2009
To: Ceb (MADRASMAN) [#1] 20 Dec 2009

Cunts.

Little Joe was well worth it instead of the cynical "Ooh stop it I'm not going to behave" people. It's just a victory for mass-marketing and deserves to be consigned to the waste-bin of history. Especally as they swore on 5Live.

From: TheCastrator [#4]
20 Dec 2009
To: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#3] 20 Dec 2009

Are you serious? He has a weak voice, the personality of a paperclip and is generally quite awful.
The only individuals in the competition for the final twelve were those three girls who had to stick a rap into every song, John and Edward who were awful, knew they were awful, and took the piss, and that girl who looked like an Afghan Hound(Her individuality taking the form of her speaking like a deaf person).

From: Steve (CERAZED) [#5]
20 Dec 2009
To: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#3] 20 Dec 2009

Personally I don't give a shit what the song was (though I consider Killing In The Name to be one of the weakest of Rage's songs), it's about stopping the cynical cycle of 'X-Factor > Christmas Number One > OMG BEST SINGAR EVAR!'.

From: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#6]
20 Dec 2009
To: ALL

*points and laughs*

Firstly, where the fucking FUCK has Lost's sense of irony gone?

Secondly, you losers for actually watching any of the episodes and being able to mention the names of those involved.

Thirdly, both the above again.

*despairs*

From: Ceb (MADRASMAN) [#7]
20 Dec 2009
To: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#6] 21 Dec 2009

I got the irony and I haven't watched any X-Factor.

From: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#8]
21 Dec 2009
To: Ceb (MADRASMAN) [#7] 21 Dec 2009

I'd expect nothing less from one such as yourself.

From: TheCastrator [#9]
21 Dec 2009
To: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#6] 22 Dec 2009

I can't tell with you these days, man.
Also, I only watched it because it was very very bad.

From: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#10]
22 Dec 2009
To: TheCastrator [#9] 22 Dec 2009

I've not changed. Bad TV has always made me either avoid it entirely or break my telly. I've only ever watched one reality TV series past one episode by choice (I've been in houses where one has been on and I've had no say over it, eg I saw that mong woman win her heat of Britain's got spackers), and that was I'm A Celeb... with John Lydon. And stopped once he left.

From: TheCastrator [#11]
22 Dec 2009
To: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#10] 23 Dec 2009

Also, you were right about "The cynical 'Ooh stop it I'm not going to behave' people". That knocked me off course a bit.

From: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#12]
23 Dec 2009
To: TheCastrator [#11] 24 Dec 2009

Haha. But seriously - a 17-year-old song gets championed to be No. 1? Making shed-loads for Sony? Who own the X-Factor stuff? Discuss.

From: Steve (CERAZED) [#13]
23 Dec 2009
To: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#12] 23 Dec 2009

You'll be hard pressed to find a song that isn't owned by Sony somewhere along the line. There's only about 5 record labels out there.

From: arkbar [#14]
23 Dec 2009
To: Steve (CERAZED) [#13] 23 Dec 2009

There are 4 major labels, but oodles and oodles of independents too.

From: Steve (CERAZED) [#15]
23 Dec 2009
To: arkbar [#14] 24 Dec 2009

And between them the big four account for nearly 75% of music sales. So between them there's not a lot that's going to be successful in a campaign that isn't owned by them.

I'd bet a fair few of the 'independent' labels are subsidiaries of or have deals with the big four, also.

EDITED: 23 Dec 2009 by CERAZED

From: Cyph (CYPHERSPACE) [#16]
23 Dec 2009
To: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#12] 23 Dec 2009

It's not about taking money away from Sony. Or X-Factor. It was about showing that people care about music other than the stuff that generally gets to No. 1, and especially at Christmas. Almost a way of showing that X-Factor isn't representative of the musical taste of the entire nation. Granted, perhaps a 17-year-old song isn't the best way to celebrate the power of the alternative music market, but that probably just shows it was a spur-of-the-moment thing, not a thought-out campaign.

From: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#17]
23 Dec 2009
To: Cyph (CYPHERSPACE) [#16] 24 Dec 2009

I guess the chorus of "Ooh, no, get you, I don't fancy that" or whatever it is was the appeal. And was it really that spur-of-the-moment? Hmmm - the cynic in me suggests that if you dig deep enough you'll find the Hand of Marketing (may His name be revered).

From: Steve (CERAZED) [#18]
24 Dec 2009
To: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#17] 28 Dec 2009

I doubt it somehow - though Sony haven't exactly been pauperised by this, I think they'd have regarded Geordie Pub Singer as a safe long-term bet, and the Christmas number one for him would've been much more helpful.

From: TheCastrator [#19]
24 Dec 2009
To: Jez (THE_HATSTAND) [#12] 28 Dec 2009

Does it matter who owns it really? It's funny, which is why I bought Killing In The Name. I go to Caffee Nero not because OH MY GOD $TARBUK$ WANTS MY MONEY AND THEY ARE CORPORATION WHICH IS A BAD, but because I prefer the coffee.
I take so much delight in the fact that Irn Bru outsells Coke up here in Scottishland because it's funny.

I do things and take pleasure in things because they are funny. Or better. And this whole Christmas number one thing is hilarious.

From: [LST]Al (AL) [#20]
24 Dec 2009
To: TheCastrator [#19] 25 Dec 2009

Pretty much I agree with this (barring the fact that coffee is, universally, foul). Also, this was, to the best of my knowledge, a "genuine" campaign. Rage weren't involved until the latter stages. The guy that ran it tried to get Rick Astley to #1 last year somewhat unsuccessfully. He picked the right song this year.

Plus the 5live incident is one of the funniest bits of radio this year. Why on earth didn't they see what happened coming? Did no-one stop and consider what they'd asked them not to sing?

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